Hunting ruffed grouse and woodcock are something I have never done, so when two guys who have start talking, it is time to be quiet and start listening.

Jerry Carlson and Greg Jones have some good information on where to go, what to do once you get there, and how to prepare your meal after you've brought down some birds.

OK, I couldn't keep quiet (SURPRISE!), but I think my questions were good ones.

They both have some hints for their other favorite pastime - fall fishing - which is good, because I don't think anyone is ready to hang up their rods and reels just yet!

Listen in as two friends tell you all you need to know.